NASTF Information Requests

Tracking: 406 Status: Closed
State: MD Name: Gregory
Category of Request: Driveability - Fuel, Ignition, Emission, Computer, etc. Manufacturer: 2004 NISSAN SENTRA

Inquiry
Have you checked the OEM website?
Yes
Description of Repair unable to perform
I was unable to program the ECM with the latest calibration for Nissan TSB: NTB03-064c using the Standard Motor Products(i flash) J2534 device.
Description of Information not available
All information is available to resolve this issue unfortunately my SMP(i flash)J2534 device is not compatible with Nissan vehicles! Regardless the issue was resolved locally using the Nissan Consult III VI device!
Description of steps taken to obtain information (help/contact function on website, websites, etc.)
With the information collected I made contact with Skip Potter with the Chesapeake Automotive Business Association www.caba.biz and Charlie Gorman, the Executive Manager at www.etools.org and a Board member of www.nastf.org. Charlie, in turn contacted Jim Von Ehr at Nissan who invited me to submit the details of my situation to CONTACTS on their website www.nissan-techinfo.com Charlie asked me to submit my situation to the Information Request feature at www.nastf.org so that it will receive the attention of the OEMs and NASTF committees. In the end, Charlie contacted Skip Potter with his assessment that the compatibility between OEM reflash software and your SMP J2534 software is rooted in a flawed SAE J2534 specification. While he is hopeful that an update to that SAE spec forthcoming he recognizes that these SAE specs are most often "not tight enough" so that independently-acting OEM and tool software engineers must make interpretations of the SAE spec that are not compatible. To be clear in this situation neither Nissan, SMP nor myself are at fault in this unfortunate and costly inconvenience to myself and our customer. Nissan has validated a tool for the aftermarket (Actia PassThru +XS 207f or later,DrewTech CarDaq- Plus 1.9.22 or later, DrewTech Mongoose 1.2.2 or later),SMP has not resolved this software issue due to the cost of engineering and I have chosen not to purchase another J2534 tool. It appears, as Charlie suggests that a "tighter J2534 spec" written by the SAE tool committee would likely have prevented the disparity between the Nissan software and the i-Flash software so that any correctly-made aftermarket J2534 tool would work in this situation. I am working locally to solve the immediate challenge with this current customer but seeking assistance in tracking down the long-term solution for this situation that jeopardizes independent aftermarket service techs like myself.
Other Comments or Concerns
Situation summary: My SMP/Bluestreak i-Flash J2534 interface failed to work on this Nissan reflash. My research led you to believe I faced 3 options: 1) Send the car to an OE dealer 2) Buy one of the few Nissan "validated" J2534 tools 3) Upgrade my PC with J2534 software from Nissan at a cost of $270 with no guarantees of programming this vehicle successfully from SMP or Nissan North America.
Notes
- 10/4/2011
9/7/11 Contacted OEM regarding pending status of this inquiry. Per Nissan, considered the SIR to be "information only" when initially reviewed, but did send a detailed response to requestor on 9/8/11.
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